To: J3 J3/19-128 From: Van Snyder Subject: WG9 woes with SC22 and ISO Date: 2019-February-06 This is a message from Pat Rogers, who is convenor of WG9 (Ada): We likely have a problem. I have been talking with David Keaton, the SC 22 chair, and Michaela Moore, the SC 22 Secretariat, about the next revision. Both are new to their roles although David has been an SC 22 member for some time. I don't know Michaela's history. As far as David can see, there is no documentation of the special arrangement Ada has always had with ISO. None whatsoever. The SC 22 history books don't mention it at all. As a result neither Michaela nor David knew what I was talking about. They can see that the document is publicly available and that the copyright is different, for example, but they don't have any substantiation that we have always produced the document externally and then submitted it to ISO for approval. They can see that we used the Fast Track process last time but absent some proof of Ada's differences that is going to be a problem this time. David is not averse to the whole idea, if we can document it, but in her role Michaela is more bound by the rules. We need to substantiate the fact that there is a long-standing, different arrangement for Ada. I asked David's predecessor (Rex J.) but he was not in that role during Ada 2012 and had no knowledge of it. David said he will try to track down Rex's predecessor but he was not confident that he could find him. I'm now reaching out to all of you to see if any of you can shed any light for them, with a history of who agreed to what, and when. I've also asked Jim Moore and Stephen Michelle for substantiation info and history. Please let me know if you can provide useful info, as soon as possible.